tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post6843878925237405739..comments2023-08-19T07:41:24.973-07:00Comments on Darlene's Hodgepodge: ManipulationDarlenehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18373134676852496647noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-25596448669949395042010-11-01T07:06:18.867-07:002010-11-01T07:06:18.867-07:00*ebdoug - Thank you for your visit. I do hope you ...*ebdoug - Thank you for your visit. I do hope you will return.<br /><br />Yes, that's about it and our Governor, Jan Brewer, is in the thick of it. I hope it costs her the election, but given the stupidity of the average voter it probably won't.Darlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373134676852496647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-85180051607130141942010-11-01T06:40:54.161-07:002010-11-01T06:40:54.161-07:00https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?stor...https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130833741<br /><br />As I see this, The thugs in the prison industry greased the palms of the legislators who agreed to put the illegal immigrants in jail, house them, feed them and give them health care paid for by the residents of Arizona. the people of Arizona are falling for it.ebdoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03438030397209290712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-64086576942742252062010-10-28T13:35:59.129-07:002010-10-28T13:35:59.129-07:00Even in jest....I know, the article can be conside...Even in jest....I know, the article can be considered humorous or satirical, but.....Xtreme Englishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07536661018563937509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-1084989978564052042010-10-28T13:34:17.610-07:002010-10-28T13:34:17.610-07:00Darlene...Clearly I wasn't talking about you o...Darlene...Clearly I wasn't talking about you or your blog, but answering your question about how the media manipulate us. Just for (non)fun, take a look at the cover of the current issue of New York magazine. President Who?? How did she, being dumb as a box of rocks, get so ubiquitous? Because everyone was talking about her--not necessarily in flattering terms. There are plenty of nutcases around that nobody talks about, and we don't have irresponsible magazine editors proposing them as president.Xtreme Englishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07536661018563937509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-7318319948079069352010-10-27T15:48:14.276-07:002010-10-27T15:48:14.276-07:00*Xtreme English - I doubt that anyone who reads my...*Xtreme English - I doubt that anyone who reads my blog would be swayed by the name of a nutcase, but I see your point.<br /><br />*Barry - One advantage of being so old is that I no longer care what the fringe group think of me and doubt that a whacko would bother with an old lady.<br /><br />*Jack Jodell - Thank you Sir, for your kind words. You made my day.<br /><br />*Jane - You nailed it. A charismatic leader can say anything and the naive will follow blindly.Darlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373134676852496647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-16147180636642794482010-10-27T10:54:05.402-07:002010-10-27T10:54:05.402-07:00Part of this may be explained in the context of &q...Part of this may be explained in the context of "leaders/followers". Seems that a segment is predisposed to following thoughts of others thus giving them credibility and authority they have not earned or deserve. Indeed a sad comment to allow someone you don't even know to take over your mind and let them mold your thoughts rather than take the time and responsibility to form your own rationale. Certainly explains how some of these fringe beliefs in the name of religion have captured such a wide following because some articulate spokesman who knows how to capture the hearts and minds of<br />these willing "lemmings" who follow and defend these people.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07985809065239779336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-41107450447694919892010-10-27T10:13:29.236-07:002010-10-27T10:13:29.236-07:00Darlene,
You are a most perceptive, intelligent, a...Darlene,<br />You are a most perceptive, intelligent, and observant woman. If there were more people just like you, the modern Goebbels propaganda machine known as Fox "News" would have only a handful of viewers and the Republicans would be a smaller minority party than the Green Party. Blog on, sister!Jack Jodellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165430903903838990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-67187824358454101762010-10-26T23:09:42.100-07:002010-10-26T23:09:42.100-07:00I have been SO troubled of late and am at a loss a...I have been SO troubled of late and am at a loss and my hope has dwindled a bit. I have been disappointed by the Administration on a number of issues, but I must believe it has to be better than anything offered by the 'right'. Long before it became cliche, I was saying that this GOP is not my parent's GOP. Even though I remember my grandfather glued to the radio during Limbaugh's 3 hours of blabbering, I find it hard to believe he would be that cruel and hateful. Most of my family is not around to see what's going on, but I'd love to ask them about what's going on now. I've wanted to blog about this on my site, but I am so afraid of the nuts on the right that I don't want to. I may still yet. I only wish I had the vision and words that you have, Darlene. Thanks so much for putting it out there and sticking to your beliefs.Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04469229581743468376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-73354601642797812332010-10-26T21:48:31.216-07:002010-10-26T21:48:31.216-07:00i picked up a copy of a local newspaper this past ...i picked up a copy of a local newspaper this past weekend, and just about every PHOTO in the political section was of a REPUBLICAN. i doubt the democrats simply disappeared last week, so what does this say to us on a very basic level (like, um, the lizard brain)? that these are the important people?? perceptions become reality in their consequences. how do most of us perceive what's important in the news? by its presence there. it's not rocket science. this is the kind of thing we're up against. this is also why i am careful about whose names i include when i post. simply talking about someone is ADVERTISING in a sense, for which the beneficiary does not pay a cent.Xtreme Englishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07536661018563937509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-41346007476424728262010-10-26T14:18:24.846-07:002010-10-26T14:18:24.846-07:00*Kay Dennison - That's a good analogy.*Kay Dennison - That's a good analogy.Darlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373134676852496647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-69537221845296954432010-10-26T11:47:38.921-07:002010-10-26T11:47:38.921-07:00I echo what you have said here as you well know. ...I echo what you have said here as you well know. I'm tired of it but it's like a bad accident where you just can't look away.Kay Dennisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02646717192332313215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-71500568664595757102010-10-26T11:26:24.115-07:002010-10-26T11:26:24.115-07:00*Nance - Very well said, Nance. Do you think it p...*Nance - Very well said, Nance. Do you think it possible to find them? I hope so.Darlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373134676852496647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-58014559706890120832010-10-26T10:28:22.552-07:002010-10-26T10:28:22.552-07:00"It isn't just politics. Religious leade..."It isn't just politics. Religious leaders have been doing it since religion first became part of human equation."<br /><br />Well stated; perhaps it is no accident that the Christian Coalition has chosen the Republican and tea parties to link to. I've pondered, also, what the psychological underpinnings of our party differences might be, but it probably doesn't work to assign thinking liberals to the left brain and emotional-reasoning based conservatives to the right, since those powerful Left Brainers tend to be the more rigid personalities who bow to authority. And it is that rigidity, that bow to authority that is at the basis, I think, of the core personality differences between conservatives and liberals. <br /><br />It's measurable and somebody has surely done it. Let's find them!Nancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15166865250789996825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-62713896429510444742010-10-25T15:26:32.022-07:002010-10-25T15:26:32.022-07:00*Freda - Don't try to figure our politics out....*Freda - Don't try to figure our politics out. It will drive you crazy. ;-)Darlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373134676852496647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-39681855864245502982010-10-25T11:45:48.894-07:002010-10-25T11:45:48.894-07:00I shall have to pay more attention to what is happ...I shall have to pay more attention to what is happening in your politics, it is all a bit confusing for me; but I do agree that people have tended to look for easy or straightforward answers rather than work things out for themselves.Fredahttp://www.freda.org.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-14165165315664455012010-10-25T09:32:39.107-07:002010-10-25T09:32:39.107-07:00*Joared - I agree, those who should have no name a...*Joared - I agree, those who should have no name are reckless and do incite people to do very bad things, including murder.<br /><br />*Arlene - Thank you for your visit. I do hope you will return. <br /><br />Yes, I fear we are in for very dark days.<br /><br />*Rummuser - Unfortunately, you are right.<br /><br />*Paula - I'm off to your blog to read it right now. Thanks for the tip.Darlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373134676852496647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-36178882600406503442010-10-25T09:12:21.793-07:002010-10-25T09:12:21.793-07:00Thanks for posting this, Darlene. I wish Frank Ric...Thanks for posting this, Darlene. I wish Frank Rich -- or someone! --had written a piece this strong, months ago. Many bloggers have been saying the same thing, but we reach such a small pool of voters, and most are members of the choir. <br /><br />Did you see the front page story about PAC financing in yesterday's Washington Post? Talk about biting the hand that feeds you! I've got a quote from it on my blog, fyi.paulahttp://www.birdsonawireblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-60531323148055751202010-10-25T06:56:53.031-07:002010-10-25T06:56:53.031-07:00Darlene, once again, I would rather not comment on...Darlene, once again, I would rather not comment on the American situation for the reason that I am not one. I would however add a comment that to expect politicians and vested interests not to manipulate the public is being very naive. They would not be what they are, if they are not manipulators. This is true in all democracies. Sad, but true.rummuserhttp://www.rummuser.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-50279811904275006952010-10-24T16:20:35.831-07:002010-10-24T16:20:35.831-07:00Is it because they were taught to never question t...Is it because they were taught to never question their elders or their religious leaders? Or are they genetically disposed to believe in a right leaning way? Are some people predisposed to think with their emotions instead of their brains? <br /><br />I've asked myself these same questions. Certainly the conservative media has a lot to do with it. That's a force that has tremendously increased it's presence in the last couple of decades. I am just on the edge of despair these days wondering if right wing money is going to completely take over our beloved country. No hope for the middle or working classes if that happens.Arlenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-342692190188505824.post-8381140630309459772010-10-24T16:03:00.384-07:002010-10-24T16:03:00.384-07:00I've wondered about many of the same issues yo...I've wondered about many of the same issues you raise, especially during the past ten years. You've put it very well as does Frank Rich. <br /><br />As for the broadcasters and political figures you name (I generally avoid even writing their names since I don't want to give them the publicity they want) -- I think much of what they say is calculated to get them attention at any cost (think of that last BO -- I could be snarky about those initials but I believe name calling is destructive, too -- episode on "The View": both pgms benefit from the controversy publicity)-- it's mostly a game for them and they're laughing all the way to the bank and at their followers, but lovin' the power. They're the political version of "shock jocks." They really exercise no judgment to avoid inciting the extremists and count on support of people who are susceptible to being influenced by their words.joaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09999395062839739698noreply@blogger.com